lmao at all the dumb fucking chuds ranting in here ORWELL WAS A SOCIALIST, POISONOUS THOUGHT REEE. Little snowflake bitches, can't even accept an classic work of literature on its own merits and need a safe space, apparently. Conservatives are such little bitches 99% of the time
Huh? Orwell was a libertarian socialist, a trotskyst. He was against the totalitarian regime of Stalin, but he was still a socialist. If you don't know the difference between then you need a 20th century history book.
LOL, there's no such thing as "libertarian socialism". Socialism, by definition is collectivism and centrally planned economy. If a good is owned not by the individual, but by a collective, someone needs to manage that good - since a car for example can only exist in one place at any given time, two people can't drive the same car in two different directions. This means someone needs to decide who gets their turn first. In practice, the good belongs not to "the people" but to the one who makes decisions regarding it. And that means that whether you use that car or not is up to that person, not to you. So you are no longer free - you are a subject to the person who decides when and if you can use things. By the same token, every business that gets financed by the state, with its unlimited supply of money, forcefully expropriated from the people, is essentially running on cheats - so the competition breaks down, as does the free market. Which means that if the state finances one business, it will eventually have to finance ALL the businesses for them to stay afloat. And if your survival depends on someone else's donations - that's right, THEY decide what the business should or shouldn't do, therefore THEY own that business, not you. Socialism by its very definition is totalitarian because it has to be. Saying "libertarian socialism" is like saying "free slave" or "dry rain". It's an oxymoron. Learn basic economy.
Well, it happens that if you study politics, economics and history you'll find that libertarian socialism exists. But, in the other hand, if happens that you don't study and you only repeat BS from political influencers then you won't know what it is. Basic marxist slogan: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". So, if you have two people in need of a car and only one can afford it, then you're living under capitalism and not socialism, anarchism nor communism. Under socialism, not all business are run by the state. That's communism. And "running on cheats" it's not a reasonable economical argument, keep it to a gaming discussion. Capitalism freedom is a fake freedom. If I want to open a business to sell purple velvet left hand gloves for blonde african midgets, then I'll go banckrupt since the demand for this is so small and niche. In capitalism you're tied to the markets, not to your individuality. In socialism, at least someone will say to you "dude, we are in need of truck tyres and not your silly gloves. Do that or look for something else to work" preventing you from going bankrupt. In socialism, you're tied to your people's needs but at least it's not masquered as "freedom". Ayn Rand caricaturized freedom as a delusional architect who wanted to build a beautiful building but the rest keep telling him that it was useless, therefore ruining his "freedom". Freedom of making an apartment building without bathrooms/restrooms rendering the whole building literally unsuitable for people, excactly the thing an aparment building is for. Fake freedom. Read some Tolstoy, Bakunin, Marx, Fourier, Owen and more to understand that libertarian socialism exists and it's far, far away from totalitarism. You want an example of oxymoron? Try "anarcho-capitalism", the newest kid's fashion that's silly as you can get.
XD "Real Nazism is far from totalitarianism, read some Goeels and Hier instead of repeating slogans thought by people who don't understand what Nazism REALLY stands for" ^ That's how you sound. You understand neither socialism NOR capitalism. But that's okay. The way things are going, soon you'll receive a wake-up call. Not that I expect you to learn anything from it, but oh well.
In true stupid fashion, even your examples utilized for "ridiculization" are wrong. Neither Goebbels or Hitler (by the way, why you censor yourself? what? there's no freedom of speech in capitalism? huh?) showed any sign of libertarianism, but all of those authors I mentioned... guess what? yes, they did. With every response you show how little you read bout economics and politics. Oh, but the joke is pointing something extravagant to "ridiculize" my point? Then let's talk about nazi supposed "anticapitalism" and "socialism" stated by Goebbels and Hitler. Nope, they named "national socialist" at their party to draw the attention of the low classes (since socialism was popular at the time) and they literally made german capitalist richier with their policies. Crazy, huh? It's like people that belive in fascism being a welfare socialist ideology share little to nothing with brainwashed nazis. Uh-oh. Sorry, keep talking about videogames. Economics and politics are not for you, clearly.
First you deliver the brillant and clever "Ok, commie" then you try to menace me accusing me of liberal, ignoring the contradictory terms and the fact that I didn't state any preference in ideologies. Kid, if you expect to scare people the same way you expect people take you as an intellectual... better start doing exactly the contrary things you belive would work. Hey, cheer up. You can grow a beard later in your life. In the meantime, happy holidays and piss off.
And what does their political position matter if each one creates society itself? If you leave the work to others to create the image of the society that you supposedly want, then I have worse news for you than 1984 and that is not an image or society left or right ... it's something that anyone with power can transgress if we let him and he just put it there
I need you to explain the first part 'cause I couldn't understand it very well. For the second one, yes, 1984 it's about the worst of all ideologies, schools of thought and economic systems mixed together.
both stories are part of one, the only difference is that now, nowadays, there are not only stories in a book, they are real stories for many people around the world for whom they wish they were never real, but many mistakes ended up leading us apart from this together with Aldous Huxley and his happy world :(
The book is literally about the hypocrisy of a totalitarian communist regime. You'd have to be brain dead to think conservatives are the ones complaining about the book.
everyone worried about the book and nobody saw how people really hurt others ... we would have to worry less about political thought and more about the actions taken by real people, that if you don't stop them, then the book becomes prediction, but if you prevent people from following the bad example, you prevent the content of the book from being similar to reality
Seriously, how the fuck this game works
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Socialism, by definition is collectivism and centrally planned economy.
If a good is owned not by the individual, but by a collective, someone needs to manage that good - since a car for example can only exist in one place at any given time, two people can't drive the same car in two different directions. This means someone needs to decide who gets their turn first. In practice, the good belongs not to "the people" but to the one who makes decisions regarding it.
And that means that whether you use that car or not is up to that person, not to you. So you are no longer free - you are a subject to the person who decides when and if you can use things.
By the same token, every business that gets financed by the state, with its unlimited supply of money, forcefully expropriated from the people, is essentially running on cheats - so the competition breaks down, as does the free market. Which means that if the state finances one business, it will eventually have to finance ALL the businesses for them to stay afloat. And if your survival depends on someone else's donations - that's right, THEY decide what the business should or shouldn't do, therefore THEY own that business, not you.
Socialism by its very definition is totalitarian because it has to be. Saying "libertarian socialism" is like saying "free slave" or "dry rain". It's an oxymoron. Learn basic economy.
Basic marxist slogan: "From each according to his ability, to each according to his needs". So, if you have two people in need of a car and only one can afford it, then you're living under capitalism and not socialism, anarchism nor communism.
Under socialism, not all business are run by the state. That's communism. And "running on cheats" it's not a reasonable economical argument, keep it to a gaming discussion.
Capitalism freedom is a fake freedom. If I want to open a business to sell purple velvet left hand gloves for blonde african midgets, then I'll go banckrupt since the demand for this is so small and niche. In capitalism you're tied to the markets, not to your individuality. In socialism, at least someone will say to you "dude, we are in need of truck tyres and not your silly gloves. Do that or look for something else to work" preventing you from going bankrupt. In socialism, you're tied to your people's needs but at least it's not masquered as "freedom". Ayn Rand caricaturized freedom as a delusional architect who wanted to build a beautiful building but the rest keep telling him that it was useless, therefore ruining his "freedom". Freedom of making an apartment building without bathrooms/restrooms rendering the whole building literally unsuitable for people, excactly the thing an aparment building is for. Fake freedom.
Read some Tolstoy, Bakunin, Marx, Fourier, Owen and more to understand that libertarian socialism exists and it's far, far away from totalitarism. You want an example of oxymoron? Try "anarcho-capitalism", the newest kid's fashion that's silly as you can get.
"Real Nazism is far from totalitarianism, read some Goeels and Hier instead of repeating slogans thought by people who don't understand what Nazism REALLY stands for"
^ That's how you sound.
You understand neither socialism NOR capitalism. But that's okay. The way things are going, soon you'll receive a wake-up call. Not that I expect you to learn anything from it, but oh well.
Oh, but the joke is pointing something extravagant to "ridiculize" my point? Then let's talk about nazi supposed "anticapitalism" and "socialism" stated by Goebbels and Hitler. Nope, they named "national socialist" at their party to draw the attention of the low classes (since socialism was popular at the time) and they literally made german capitalist richier with their policies. Crazy, huh? It's like people that belive in fascism being a welfare socialist ideology share little to nothing with brainwashed nazis. Uh-oh.
Sorry, keep talking about videogames. Economics and politics are not for you, clearly.
OK, commie.
Just remember - the party won't want you, nor need you. Liberals get the bullet first, don't say you haven't been warned.
Kid, if you expect to scare people the same way you expect people take you as an intellectual... better start doing exactly the contrary things you belive would work.
Hey, cheer up. You can grow a beard later in your life. In the meantime, happy holidays and piss off.
https://youtu.be/43Ij1OUHCm4
i remember watching the cartoon version, some scenes were brutal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXkicQRl6vg&ab_channel=NonMirageTruthVision
lol what?
more cyberpunk abominations?
please help
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