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William_Wilberforce_II
My life began before my birth, like many of yours. I am a former fetus, a former zygote that exists only because my developing life was protected, like everyone who ever walked this earth, exception Adam and Eve. Effective logic, tone and methods that break through willful denial are life saving tools. I firmly believe that humanity, specifically Americans, have the capacity to evolve past this inhumane chapter in our history. Knowing what is at stake, I am tend towards directness due to the gravity & value of the lives at stake everyday. I respect your mission and your diligence, Tim & Josh.
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TheTEAeconomist
The real guestion is: "When does the soul enter the womb?" .... And on the other side of LIFE, "When does the soul leave the body?" .... It is really all about the Soul ... Becasue what part of the body is a person? The hand or leg? Are you less a person if you lost your arm or never had one?
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Dee
Not sure I understand what you're saying. Saying a newborn is more human than a zygote is the same as saying an adult is more human than a newborn. I don't see the logical fallacy.
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Bruce L
These types of arguments are being done in Congress all of the time. Then what you are saying is Congress should not be going there. I think it should be assumed that the fetus WILL GROW into a child, then an adult like we all have. It has hand, legs, a head, what do people think they will turn into a frog? We know where this is going don't we? Also, you can use the argument that a baby's thinking is worthless after birth. Then is it okay to kill that baby? Maybe that is coming next. Stay tuned.
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Nulono
I think a good way to illustrate the problem with this argument is to turn it around. Life begins at conception? When during conception? When the sperm and egg first touch? When the sperm penetrates the egg? When the sperm's cellular membrane releases its genes? When the genes combine? Say you pick the first option. What counts as "touching"? Do the molecules have to bond?
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TheTEAeconomist
The real question is when does the STATE has a vested interest in the LIFE ... At Birth, a year or two later, or days/weeks/months before birth. Until the state ID when their interest is established ... it is only a moral question which each person needs to address of themselves. One Question that is often avoided by all, are what are the interests/rights of the father? After all if the father has no Rights, the father has no Responsibility? Right?
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Vicky Littlejohn
Except in rape, the woman permitted the child into her womb in the first place. She shouldn't have got pregnant. Abortion is not contraception. 99% of abortions are not due to rape.
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joshbrahm
I can't go into too much detail on the most philosophically interesting pro-choice argument in comments here. Briefly, I don't think taking someone's kidneys by force is analogous to pregnancy. The best explanation of my thoughts that is currently in written form is at http://www.joshbrahm.com/DFG, but our thoughts have developed a good deal in the last two years. We are planning on publishing a very thorough and careful explanation of our current approach to those types of arguments next year.