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joshbrahm
Violet, I'm leaving this one comment up to tell you that if someone is harassing you, we'd recommend contacting local authorities. The Jim you're dealing with isn't the Jim quoted in the original post above. We can't help you on this issue except to recommend you contact authorities, as harassment is illegal. I hope this issue gets resolved. I'm really sorry you're dealing with a stressful situation.
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violethotson
No, it is not that Jim.
I was not as observant as I should have been in not pointing that out.
I apologize.
I have decided to delete the post to avoid any more misunderstandings.
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joshbrahm
Quick moderator comment here for transparency. I just deleted most of the comments under this post, because a few people had taken over the comments, not to talk about this quote, but to discuss between themselves other topics, from the ACA to pro-life and pro-choice commenters on other sites they don't like to some very personal medical issues. There was also something confusing going on, where a "Jim H" was being talked very negatively about, which would naturally lead people to think that this Jim H refers to the Jim Henderson quoted above, but they were clearly talking about someone else based on the description of him.
As a reminder, our comments policy is linked above every comments section on this site, and off-topic comments will be deleted. I'd recommend people use alternative means of communicating to each other, especially about personal medical issues. That's not what this site is for.
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Crystal
Hi, Val, I was just reading the comments and saw what Ms. Morgan said to you. I thought the way she behaved was dreadfully disgusting and I'm sorry she said something so horrible and hateful. For every kind comment you attempted to send her, she reacted by twisting your words. It's a shame, really, Ms. Morgan seemed to be quite nice to me when we first interacted a long time back. I don't know what changed her, honest I don't. She says your daughter will find out you're a liar and then she says that about your daughter? Man that is, so, like, the most horrible thing that anyone could possibly say! And for someone who will remain nameless to refuse to respond one way or the other, I'm sorry but I don't agree with her actions here.
I think one reason the abortion "rights" movement has survived for so long is that abortion supporters tend to stick together and refuse to be divided by anyone, whereas prolifers care about integrity and are willing to call people out, even their own, over a wrong action or word.
If you show Ms. Morgan's comments to your daughter, you might like to also show the daughter my comments - that I care about her a lot and hope she gets healed so she can really enjoy her life.
BTW, please tell me, how's your daughter going with her treatments and life in general? I know it's been a long time and I apologise for not getting back to this earlier. I hope she is going well, and that treatments are helping her. Please know that I may not be back for a while after posting this, because of the pressing projects that I have to complete plus a million other matters to attend to. Nevertheless, you and yours are in my thoughts, a lot more than you know.
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74msn64decks
I have a suggestion for what has happened with ms Morgan: Her brain has rotted, and her heart as well.
Seriously, the change you describe, combined with the lack of touch with reality suggests to me that she’s either psychotic or suffering from a brain damage.
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Elahatterol
That sounds similar to what I posted a few comments up.
https://blog.equalrightsinstitute.com/quotes/jim-henderson-quote/#comment-3762438695
Since she is obviously mentally ill, it is possible that her brother has a mental illness condition on top of, and possibly not even totally related, to his Downs.
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74msn64decks
Yes, that is possible. Perhaps neither him nor Ann have been properly diagnostized.
Pretty frightening to think that a mentally ill and disabled man is taken care of by a sister who is also mentally ill! Like a blind leading a blind. Ann would need care herself, rather than being caregiver.
Honestly, her hateful commentary makes me wonder, not only what kind of a caregiver she is, but also if her brother’s problems- and her and her mother’s problems with him- might have worsened thanks to her.
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Elahatterol
One can only imagine how AM interacts with her mother and brother, or what her REAL family situation is, but there is very likely more to it than what she is posting.
I remember, awhile back, that PJ4 seemed to have some inside info on her situation that made AM look pretty bad, but she didn't really specify what it was.
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74msn64decks
True, probably she leaves out some parts, parts that would have shown a truer picture of her interactions with her family, which likely is not pretty.
I remember that PJ seemed to have inside info on more than one of the SPL pro-aborts ( she also seemed to have info on Jim), I remember she said that "All will be revealed in time." I guess we will get the specifications then. Wonder what it is that she has found.
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Elahatterol
It would be interesting to see what she (thinks) she has.
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74msn64decks
Agreed!
I have seen her on other sites, telling a little about pro-aborts she has been fighting- she had caught another troll, known on Disqus as ”Ella”, guilty of impersonation, threats, and other offences on Facebook. Perhaps Ann ( and Jim) are guilty of similar things there? I don’t know.
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Elahatterol
Even though PJ4 does not post near as much as she used to, she does seem to spend time trying to 'find things out' about various posters.
It seems like that would take a lot of time, and I really wouldn't know how to do it, myself.
A bit off topic, but have you had difficulty getting to this (and other) sites, especially to specific comments?
I seem to have more problems with that on this site, and on Patheos, than I do on either LAN or SPL, which seems a bit odd.
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74msn64decks
I don´t know how to "find out" things about other posters, except when they have left a clue on their profiles of course.
I am sorry you have trouble getting to this site. That has not been a problem for me. On the other hand, I have had a bit of trouble getting to specific comments on SPL when I use my phone.
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Elahatterol
Well, congratulations on getting a phone!
Can I ask if you have a job yet?
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74msn64decks
Thanks! I bought it on July 31, it was well worth the money. An Iphone, if you wonder. Has made commenting easier than before, among other things.
On the job issue, I have not gotten a job quite yet, but I got a call today from a company that are interested in me and wanted to ask some questions. Since I did not have time to talk right then, and the lady that called was just about to go home for today, we agreed that I call them tomorrow. If I am lucky, I will start working for them on either April 6 or April 20. It is an electrics company, I will do customer service if they hire me, answering questions and stuff like that. I will work full time. Wish me luck! :-)
I am also waiting for news from 14 other companies, so I feel fairly optimistic.
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Elahatterol
It definately sounds like you have a lot of 'irons in the fire', and I wish you luck.
The electronics one sounds like it would be fun.
I hope that eventually my son Raymond can get into something like that.
Cell phones can be good.
I had one for years before I did much with it (besides making calls), but I now know that they can do a lot more than that.
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74msn64decks
Thank you! Yes, I do have many ”irons in the fire” ( a saying we have in Swedish too, BTW), my parents think it almost sounds crazy the way I’ve applied for work lately.
I made the call two hours ago, it went well. After having let me ask a couple of questions, the lady made a short first interview with me. After having completed it, she told me I answered the questions really well, which felt good to hear.
Afterwards, she sent me an email with some tests to do. I plan to do them this evening.
Once I have done the tests, I will get to know in a few days if I get invited for an interview in their office. After that will follow a group recruitment meeting on either March 1 or March 15, if I am lucky.
I used to have a really simple cell phone before this one- a Nokia. A good phone, but not possible to access the Internet or check emails with. On the other hand, I used it for seven years, and still have it in reserve, so it was well designed.
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Elahatterol
Interesting that the Swedish have the "irons in the fire" saying, also.
Since you know and write in both languages, I bet that you know all the words and praises that our languages have in common.
With the determined way that you are job seeking, you may actually find yourself with MORE spare time when you find one.
It sounds like your parents are proud of you, as they should be.
Even when I had a cell several years ago that included the internet, I basically just used it as a phone.
It is only in the last few years that I have been using it for much more.
Basically, I use either my phone or a 10-year-old laptop for the internet--usually my phone.
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74msn64decks
BTW, Val, WGC posted some lyrics on the ”We were told not to say baby” thread on LAN that I think you might like :-)
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Elahatterol
I saw that.
You inspired him, too!
It is quite descriptive.
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74msn64decks
Yes it is. I thought it was a good celebration of us and of the LAN community, very fitting lyrics.
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74msn64decks
Yes, I know the words and phrases and sayings that Swedish and English have in common. Which are many; our languages are, after all, closely related. And, when it comes to sayings, people of course learn from one another, too.
Well, who knows? :-)
Yes, I think my parents are proud of me, though particularly my mom seems to get somewhat nervous on my behalf as well when the subject of work is brought up.
I started using my phone for the Internet a couple of weeks after I had bought it. It´s good not having to use my laptop every time I want to access Internet ( yeah, I also use either phone or laptop- my laptop is about three years younger than yours).
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Crystal
I think you meant to say "rotted".
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74msn64decks
Yes, that was what I meant, thanks!
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Crystal
One major strength in abortion supporters' arguments is the workings of the brain. The brain is the seat of personhood, according to them, because the science shows it. That's why she was asking me all those questions about brain-death. I suspect my psychopath might have gotten me involved in that conversation in the first place as well, but I am not sure.
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Crystal
She might have sent me an aggressive message but only once or twice from what I remember.
What do you think of all that?
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74msn64decks
To me, that sounds fascinating, since in my experience, she is aggressive most of the time, when talking to me and other pro-lifers.
Whether it is because she actually likes you, or because she just wishes to manipulate you, I do not know.
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Crystal
She was one of those who made me feel welcome at a place I no longer comment at, too. She actually made me feel accepted and cared about despite our disagreements on PL. Not only that, she actually engaged in civil conversation with me. She is quite capable of engaging in civil conversation when she wants to. That is one reason I am very disappointed and angered with her actions towards Val, a lady I consider to be one of my dearest friends.
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74msn64decks
Sounds a bit like my own experience with Jim, what you describe about Ann.
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Crystal
Just a quick clarification before I depart - she was mean to other PLers before she met me, but she always seemed to treat me a little differently from the rest, although she did avoid me at least once when I said hi. But - so far anyway - she hasn't sent me aggressive messages. I do have to keep rather a stern tone when speaking to her, though, otherwise I might land in a mess. We haven't interacted for a while, though.
One time I was interacting with her (and a few others) somewhere else. The things she said about brain-death were so foreign to my thinking that I struggled to respond to what she was saying, although I really tried. My psychopath - the one with many names - told me I must go back and answer Ms. Morgan's comments. I did and I found most of what I had said had been flagged. I don't think Ms. Morgan was responsible for that but I do think the strict rules of that forum were - I suspect my psychopath flagged what I wrote now, too.
I will now repeat her illustration, as best I can remember (if I find the link I'll share it): she asked me, if I had to choose between someone who was brain-dead and a person who was not brain-dead but injured so severely they would die if I didn't help them, who would I choose to save? Also, she said - and I've heard this argument before - well, let's just say I will have to try hard to remember but it was definitely relating to brain-death and the heart and if I do, can I tell you please? Plus she said that if you make a brain-transplant from Person A to Person B and Person A was an evil person then Person B is responsible for Person A's actions because Person A's brain was the one that engineered the murders, even though Person B is perfectly innocent of the crime. Weird, weird stuff. My mind shuts down when confronted by those kinds of ideas. My psychopath noticed, and remarked on it. One of my psychopath's favourite accusations for me was "cognitive dissonance."
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Ann loves that sort of absurd hypotheticals, and all sorts of other absurdities, so what you describe here doesn´t surprise me. Interesting that she treats you differently.
Your psychopath sounds like a real control freak asshole.
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