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chandlerklebs
I find myself getting angry at pro-choice Christians. While I am most certainly upset that anyone has been deceived into the pro-choice position, I tend to hold Christians to the standards of Jesus. I very much want to believe that Jesus is real and will do something about the hypocrites who call themselves a follower of Jesus and yet show hatred for the unborn, the atheists, and the homosexuals.
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Babo
Pro-choicers don't hold hatred for the unborn. They just hold their health and well being above that of the unborn. Besides. There are SO many orphan children out there, so many people that don't have the means to care for a child, or even want ont. Where's the mercy in giving birth to an unwanted child and adding to those unloved children? Pro-Lifer's should be more concerned for those parent-less children before they worry about a bundle of cells that has no soul yet.
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chandlerklebs
I can agree that not all pro-choicers hate the unborn. Some of them talk as if they do. I can agree though that more needs to be done for the orphans too. I am sad that many people desire to create more children when they could adopt someone instead.
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joshbrahm
If I believed that the unborn was merely a bundle of cells absent a soul, I would agree that abortion is not worth talking about, and all of the energy devoted to it should be devoted elsewhere, and helping orphans or people sold into sex slavery are the areas that I would be most likely to spend my energy. Because I believe that even very young human beings have souls and intrinsic value, I spend the majority of my energy on this issue, because at least everybody agrees that there should be more parents for orphans and an abolition of sex slavery, while more than half of our society thinks that the majority of abortions should be legal.
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Athena1077
That is why i don't think either side is completely wrong or right on the issue of abortion. I think it really is a gray area where each person has to decide for themselves what they think about abortion and that your view cannot be imposed on another. Unlike sex slavery , everyone agrees that it is wrong. The fact the some of us DON'T see abortion as a great tragedy, should tell you that this area really is gray and should be left to individual conscience. A pro-choice person even if they are a Christian is not an evil horrible person, that person may genuinally believe that the woman's rights come first and that an embryo of 5-6 weeks is does not have the moral equivelant of killing an newborn baby.
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chandlerklebs
What is a soul?
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Crystal
The part of you that will live forever. Your emotions, thoughts, creativity, intellectual abilities, the way you communicate with your world around you - that is your soul.
Think about it this way - your body might have typed that question because your brain commanded it to, but your soul triggered your brain to ask it first. Does that make any sense whatsoever?
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chandlerklebs
And if a soul was controlling the brain, then we would be immune to the effects of alcohol and other drugs.
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chandlerklebs
I think Alzheimer's and other forms of memory loss by brain damage make it clear that our memory and personality cannot exist apart from the physical brain.
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chandlerklebs
Yes it does. I just have some reasons I don't believe it.
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Crystal
What are your reasons? Just curious.
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chandlerklebs
The self is a label that we give to the current state of emotion and consciousness of some life form but the self isn't an actual thing that would exist once these are destroyed.
Which is a huge part of why I'm pro-life too.
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chandlerklebs
I also know that our personalities and who we become is cause and effect from genetics and our life experiences. Had I been born in a different country I would have ended up being someone very different.
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chandlerklebs
I mentioned a few of them in my other comments 9 hours ago. But there are more too.